From Rock Walls to Canoes: Exciting Adventures at the Gateway Outdoor Expo
Brad Kovach, Deputy Director of River City Foundation and publisher of Terrain Magazine details the evolution and upcoming events of the Gateway Outdoor Expo, emphasizing activities like rock climbing, photo ops with Santa, and fly casting demos. The episode also delves into Brad’s background, the mission of Terrain Magazine, and the River City Foundation’s efforts to engage youth and communities with outdoor recreation. The show concludes with humorous anecdotes and a cappella music demonstrations.
In this episode of Saint Louis In Tune, hosts Arnold Stricker and Mark Langston discuss various events and issues including an interview with Brad Kovach, Deputy Director at River City Foundation and publisher of Terrain Magazine. Brad talks about the upcoming Gateway Outdoor Expo to be held at St. Charles Convention Center, sharing details about the event's evolution, activities like a 23-foot climbing wall and a Canoe with Santa Claus photo opportunity. The episode also touches on the mission of the River City Foundation to promote outdoor activities and the benefits of engaging with nature in the St. Louis region. Additionally, the show features some entertaining segments including music trivia, word of the day, and humorous anecdotes.
- River City Foundation
- Terrain Magazine – Outdoor Recreation, Adventure & Culture | St. Louis
- Gateway Outdoor Expo Home Page - Gateway Outdoor Expo
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- Big Muddy Adventures
- Upper Limits
- Orvis
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00:00 - None
00:01 - Intro to St. Louis in Tune
01:23 - The Return to Civility Discussion
04:12 - Introduction of Guest: Brad Kovac
06:14 - Discussing the Gateway Outdoor Expo
15:29 - Terrain Magazine Overview
18:57 - River City Foundation's Mission
20:01 - Outdoor Activities and Community Engagement
53:53 - Wrap-Up and Thank You
Arnold Stricker
Do you want to go climb a rock? How about getting into a canoe with Santa Claus? You'll find out how to do that on St. Louis in Tune. Welcome to St.
Louis in Tune, and we thank you for joining us for fresh perspectives on issues and events with experts, community leaders, and everyday people who are driving change and making an impact that shapes our society and world. I'm Arnold Stricker along with co host Sniffles Mark Langston.
Mark Langston
I know. My allergies are just raging.
The thing about it, though, is if you're in our business, in the radio business, it gives you a much deeper voice, you know what I mean?
Arnold Stricker
And that's always good.
Mark Langston
It does. Sometimes it does, yes. All right.
Arnold Stricker
You could sing bass now.
Mark Langston
Really? I know, I know. I have my cost switch rate ready to go, so I can turn it off if I have to cough.
Arnold Stricker
Okay.
Mark Langston
Or sneeze button. I've had some good sneezes here lately, so I would say back off if you see me raring up here a little bit, but. Yeah, I know. I don't know what it is.
Arnold Stricker
It's the mold count.
Mark Langston
It is global warming.
Arnold Stricker
But it's this time of the year when things change.
Mark Langston
Boy, they are changing, aren't they?
Arnold Stricker
Speaking of change, I'm going to give my own. I'm just going to do a spur of the moment, return to civility.
Mark Langston
Oh, wow. He's all right. This is an ad lib.
Arnold Stricker
I'm not going to read one. This is an ad lib.
Mark Langston
Okay. All right, I'm sitting down.
Arnold Stricker
You ready?
Mark Langston
I'm ready.
Arnold Stricker
Everybody take a chill pill.
Mark Langston
Oh.
Arnold Stricker
Return to civility. Everybody take a chill pill.
Mark Langston
You think? Can we do that? I don't.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah. We're coming out of an election and. Which made some people happy and some people sad and some people elated and some people depressed.
Mark Langston
A lot of anxious things and a.
Arnold Stricker
Lot of anxious people probably on both sides of the aisle. And I would just say everybody needs to take a chill pill. Mark and I were talking before the show.
Our country has endured quite a bit over the course of its history.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
You just think of one major event, the Civil War.
Mark Langston
Oh, my.
Arnold Stricker
And how states actually renounced their participation in the United States of America.
And there was a whole lot of hatred going on and a whole lot of nonsense as it relates to rioting and how people were taking care of other people or not taking care of them and how they were destructive. We had a real race thing going on back then, and it was all about slavery, no matter what the south says. So Our country has endured a lot.
We came out of that because of the leadership of President Abraham Lincoln and other people. And we do look to leadership. And I'm not going to make any comments about that, but I'm making comments to the citizenry who really are the country.
Mark Langston
And you have to say they voted the way they wanted to vote. The vote is the vote. And if we're going to live here and be here, we got to accept that. Sometimes you don't like the outcome.
I think we'll survive, though. Some people say, oh, no, it's going to be. We're done, we're doomed. But I don't buy that. I don't believe in that.
Arnold Stricker
No, I don't either.
Mark Langston
I think we're gonna. I think, you know, I think we could screw things up pretty good, but I think we can also fix things as well.
Arnold Stricker
I would encourage people to always be informed and to think and to read both sides.
And we talked about this in previous episodes, about listening to both sides of the news, reading both sides of what people write and forming an opinion of your own, not just hook, line and sinker.
Mark Langston
Yeah. I can only be hopeful that will happen.
Arnold Stricker
Yes.
Mark Langston
A lot of hope on that front.
Arnold Stricker
Return to civility. Take a chill pill.
Mark Langston
Take a chill pill.
Arnold Stricker
And that's not, that's figurative, folks.
Mark Langston
Okay?
Arnold Stricker
It's not literal.
Mark Langston
It's not like a square pill or round round or a horse pill you have to blow down your throat.
Arnold Stricker
It's just take deep breaths and this too shall pass.
Mark Langston
Okay, Good.
Arnold Stricker
Okay.
Mark Langston
Amen, brother.
Arnold Stricker
But what won't pass? What is our guest here today? Brad Kovac. He's deputy director at River City foundation and the publisher at Terrain magazine.
He's a professional writer, editor, publisher, creative project manager with over 25 years of experience working across multiple media platforms.
The primary focus he has is to create engaging and informative content that provides exceptional experiences for the target audience and drives business results. I love. That's the ultimate put together of what you are. Brad.
And he's here to talk to us about the upcoming show that's going to be taking place at the St. Charles Convention center, which is the Gateway Outdoor Expo. Brad, welcome back to St. Luis in Tune.
Brad Kovach
Thank you for having me. Again, appreciate being here.
Arnold Stricker
2024, open to the public, free parking. And you've moved from. And we were talking off air From Collinsville to St. Louis to Tower Grove Park. You were at the Dome and now you're out at St.
Charles. The evolution of that.
Brad Kovach
Tell us why we're unintentionally migrating west, it seems.
Arnold Stricker
Go west, young man.
Brad Kovach
Yeah, last year was the big move for us.
We moved from being an indoor show for a number of years, then moved outdoor to Tower Grove park, which was really fun from the idea of having an outdoor expo outdoors. And the problem was it was a beautiful venue, beautiful park, beautiful people to work with. At Tower Grove, the weather was not beautiful for us.
It knocked down half the show for us. And we felt that it wasn't the experience that we wanted to give to the vendors and the attendees.
Of course, this year we're going back indoors, trying to get back to a climate, a guaranteed climate control environment is the way I'm looking at it. And yeah, we will have, we will be at the St. Charles Convention Center.
And what's great there is not only is the expo public, open and free the public. But yes, they do have free parking. They have great guest services there.
You know, along with being in an area where we don't have to worry about the weather knocking out the show, we'll be able to create, I think some fun services for folks coming in to experience the expo.
Arnold Stricker
That sounds great. That is going to be folks November 22nd.
That's a Friday from 1 to 5pm, Saturday, 10am to 5pm, that's Saturday the 23rd and Sunday the 24th, 10am to 4pm so you have the Gateway Outdoor Expo going on and give people an understanding about what's the whole expo about. Because there might be some people new to the area or maybe they would like to go and they've never been and let's tease them out a little bit there.
Brad Kovach
Sure. So the weekend actually consists of two things that I would like to explain. So on Friday we have the Gateway Outdoor Summit is what we call it.
It's more of a conference style event. It is open to the public as well, but it's more geared toward fol who are stakeholders in outdoor recs.
So maybe it's parks and rec people, it's government officials, elected officials, it's municipalities being able to come in and we have a really lively discussion.
We have a number of sessions that take place throughout that afternoon, each one with its own topic, but it's really geared toward being a discussion about expanding outdoor recreation in the St. Louis region and how we can get more people outside, remove barriers, create develop new projects, those sorts of things.
That's on Friday from 1 to 5, which you mentioned. And then on Saturday, Saturday and Sunday is the Expo, which is, as you would guess from the name is more of an exhibition where we have exhibitors.
We expect to have 150 plus booths.
And that can be anything from vendors who are selling outdoor gear, whether it's bikes, shoes, those sorts of things, to organizations that are sharing information about what they do. And then other events sometimes come to our events.
So maybe it's a marathon or a bike race or something else and they want to reach people and share information about signing up for their events. So it's really a broad number and style of folks who come there, but it's a lot of fun.
We build in also a lot of activities which I'm sure we'll probably talk about a little bit more here in detail. We want it to be fun for families and active.
So not just coming and looking to buy things or collect information, but actually participate in some activities.
Mark Langston
What's your attendance like on. You've been moving around a lot.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, it does fluctuate, but I think we feel pretty good about staying between 6 and 8,000 people is what we typically get.
Mark Langston
That's a lot of folks.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, yeah.
Mark Langston
And growing. Yeah, yeah. I think you steadily been growing, haven't you? Every year?
Brad Kovac
Yeah, we have over the years, which is some of the reason why we've also moved. We've outgrown some of the spaces that we've been in the past.
So it's really trying to find a space now that can host all the booths and the folks that we're bringing in.
Mark Langston
I love the free parking. Yeah, you got me there.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Brad Kovac
We've heard a lot over the years. You get a lot of feedback and being downtown over the course of a few different years has been amazing. But people say, hey, we have to pay to park.
Vendors have to pay, attendees have to pay. And we want to remove every barrier we can possibly so that people can come out, not spend money to come to our show.
If they want to spend money at the show, that's great. But whatever we can do to get people in.
Mark Langston
Yeah, I like it. Thank you. Kudos.
Arnold Stricker
We talked about at the front end of the show about go climb a rock. So you're going to have a 23 foot tall rock climbing wall.
Brad Kovac
Yes. That is upper limits. They come most years to the show. They've been great partners for us and kids love climbing that wall.
Mark Langston
So all of Arnold holds a belay. He's. I don't know if you knew that He's a official belay. Yeah. Do you know what a belay.
Arnold Stricker
I belay that. No, that's how I would use it.
Mark Langston
I'm A belay.
Arnold Stricker
That guy.
Mark Langston
I'm a certified belay. Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
Is that. You hold the rope.
Brad Kovac
That's the guy. That's right.
Mark Langston
That's the person that holds the rope. That's right.
Brad Kovac
Yeah. That's the safety person.
Mark Langston
Okay.
Brad Kovac
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
Safety sand.
Mark Langston
Yeah. And you have to. Do you do training for that too?
Brad Kovac
You do?
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Brad Kovac
Now, the wall they have at the Expo, which a nice facet of that is, it's auto belay, so you don't have to rely on a person. You are the machinery, or for lack of a better word is built in there.
Mark Langston
And it works fine. They work fine. Yeah. It's fun to do. I've never climbed like that before. We've done it in scouting, so we do some of that stuff.
Arnold Stricker
I'd love to do that. I don't think my knees would allow me.
Mark Langston
Oh, you'll be okay. You go up slow. It's not like you go running up the wall.
Brad Kovac
We're not doing that.
Mark Langston
We're going slow. Arnold.
Arnold Stricker
Now what intrigued me was getting your photo taken with Santa Claus in a canoe.
Mark Langston
Sounds dangerous.
Arnold Stricker
Is Santa in the front or the back? Really?
Mark Langston
I have a good question.
Brad Kovac
I think Santa's in the back. It's the first year we've done this, so we'll see how it goes.
But yeah, it's a program called Canoe with Claws, which is actually hosted by one of our vendors called Big Muddy Adventures. And Big Muddy Adventures is a local out outfitter, paddling outfitter, so they take people out on guided trips on the rivers around. Around St. Louis.
They do this program on their own every year, Canoe with Claws, and they typically host it maybe in their facility or partner with a restaurant or a bar and maybe have it there.
This year, we talked them into doing Canoe with Claws at the Expo, which I think will be great because hopefully again, kids and adults are coming in, getting their photos taken, and then could take them to Thanksgiving or put it on their Christmas card and send it out. Something to note there. It's from 1 to 3 on Saturday and Sunday is when we'll be doing Canoe with Claus.
We didn't want to necessarily tie up the Big Muddy Adventure folks all day doing that. If you want to come and get your photo taken, make sure they're from one to three.
Arnold Stricker
It reminds me of some of those shots that you see about kids with Santa Claus and they're screaming or whatever, holding the kid outside the canoe.
Brad Kovac
It puts a different whole different spin on it.
Mark Langston
I want to see Santa with a life jacket on.
Arnold Stricker
I wonder if it's red.
Brad Kovac
We could probably make that happen.
Mark Langston
I love it.
Arnold Stricker
Our big inner tube.
Mark Langston
Oh, yeah. Oh, that's good.
Arnold Stricker
Santa went tubing. Okay. Fly casting demo. Wow. And I know about Orvis and those are always fun to see those things happen.
Brad Kovac
And this is the first year for Orvis at our expo. They opened a shop, I think within the last three or four months in Richmond Heights.
They were quick to jump on board with us as a sponsor and want to host an activity. So we're really psyched about that. So, yeah, they're hosting the flycasting demo.
So I don't know specifically what that will look like, but I would imagine you're going to get some quick tips and techniques on about how to whip that fly out there and work the wrist and.
Arnold Stricker
Right.
Brad Kovac
Whatever crazy twirly stuff they do in the air should be fun to learn a little bit about it.
Mark Langston
That's a technical term, crazy twirly stuff.
Brad Kovac
You can see how deeply I am ingrained in the fly fishing culture.
Mark Langston
It's fun though to put on the.
Arnold Stricker
Waiter, the expo tweets, whatever, mountain bike trial zone. And I'm just going to read some of these and you can respond. A swim spa demo. You bring your own swimming suit. Wow.
Brad Kovac
That's also new this year. So we have a vendor, hot tubs of St. Louis, who are going to bring in a number of spas.
One of them is a swim spa, which I equate to a treadmill for swimming. So you get the current coming at you and you can just paddle forward and. But remain in place.
So if you are brave enough to jump in and want to try that, do bring a swimsuit, please. It's a family friend event. We don't want any birthday suits there. And if you are not interested in swimming, you can at least watch.
They're going to have some demo swimmers, I think on hand as well. And then we also, I believe have worked with one of the other vendors, which is a scuba diving vendor called Waikiki.
I believe they were talking with hot tubs of St. Louis to have a scuba diver in one of the spas so that you could just get a. That's a visual on what that might look like.
Mark Langston
That's fun. Have you ever scuba dived?
Arnold Stricker
Oh, yeah, I have. Yes, absolutely.
Mark Langston
Open water. I love. I do open water thing. I know.
Arnold Stricker
120Ft, is that right? Yeah.
Mark Langston
You went that deep?
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Mark Langston
I was in Cancun and we can only. I didn't know, but the Cancun was as clear as can be. It's only about 50ft deep. That's about as deep as it gets right there. I'm sorry. Go 125ft.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Brad Kovac
That's crazy.
Mark Langston
My head would be blowing up.
Arnold Stricker
It was off the pressure. Virgin Islands.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
Where the shelf just drops.
Mark Langston
Oh, yeah.
Brad Kovac
Now is that a special certification for that depth?
Arnold Stricker
I'm only certified to 100ft.
Brad Kovac
Okay. So they took us a little lower, right?
Mark Langston
Oh, well.
Brad Kovac
So yeah, I did my certification with Waikiki a year or so ago and it's been a lot of fun. We go out to Mermaid Springs. Have not been to Bon Terr Mine yet, but I want to go there.
Arnold Stricker
Or a dry suit for that one.
Brad Kovac
Do you? Yeah. I hear it's pretty cold.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah. Yes. So there's a giveaway of gear. Prize packages are worth more than twelve hundred dollars. There's some donated things.
Then there's a scavenger hunt. A photo contest gallery.
Brad Kovac
Holy. That was in so Train magazine each year hosts a photo contest. We just announced the winners in our November December issue which just came out.
And for the first time we're going to have poster size blow ups of all the photo the winners from the photo contest and making a little gallery at the expo. Just the folks who want to get some recognition and to allow people to see a little art element along with the other vendors at the show.
Arnold Stricker
That's neat. So you can get more information, folks. It's GatewayOutdoor Expo.com GatewayOutdoore Expo. Com. This is Arnold Stricker with Mark Langston of St.
Lucien Tomb. We're talking to Brad Kovac. And Brad, you mentioned about Terrain magazine. Tell folks a little bit about Terrain magazine.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, so we're actually celebrating our 10th year. This year we an outdoor recreation magazine that's based here in St. Louis, but we cover all of Missouri and southern Illinois.
And then we do also branch in a little bit into the surrounding states. But mostly we try to keep it regional to Missouri and southern Illinois.
What that means is all the content that we write about and develop and show is all regional stuff. We want people to not necessarily go away to other parts of the country. We love Colorado, we love Appalachia.
But there's so much here in Missouri and Illinois that people may not know about. So all of our content is focused on destinations.
Arnold Stricker
Kind of like a weekend trip or a day trip.
Brad Kovac
Sure, exactly.
Arnold Stricker
Okay.
Brad Kovac
But yeah, destinations and events and activities and people that you can know here so that when you're home, you don't feel left out of the outdoors. You can still get out and have a great time. So we're telling people all about that on a bi monthly basis in the magazine.
Mark Langston
I know there's a lot in Missouri. I get the magazine that the Missouri that puts out conservation. But I. Southern Illinois. I have no idea what's going on over there.
Brad Kovac
It's really a great place.
Arnold Stricker
What are some examples that you could.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, Shawnee National Forest is for me a go to. I'm there at least a few times a year. It's beautiful.
Mark Langston
I mean.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, you really. You get this northern, what they call the Illinois Ozarks, that northern Ozark sign topography.
So still very hilly, beautiful foliage, great change of seasons. Now would be a great time to go get all the color. My favorite place there is Garden of the Gods, which a lot of people have probably heard of.
Great rock formations, a little bit like Monument national park out in Utah, Arizona area.
Not the desert landscape, of course, but just these great rock formations that have been carved out by glaciers that you can go and hike around and tour. And a lot of great cabins and tree houses and just fun glamping opportunities out there as well. So that's a really great trip in southern Illinois.
Mark Langston
Never knew it's not very far.
Brad Kovac
So no, within two, two and a half hours.
Mark Langston
That's great.
Brad Kovac
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
I think about Johnson Shut Ins and Elephant Rocks and Tom Sock Mountain and all that kind of stuff.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, right.
Mark Langston
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Arnold Stricker
So biking, you're handling biking, climbing, hiking?
Brad Kovac
Yeah, yeah. We camping or stuff. Truly really try to cover all of it. But yeah, the.
I guess what you might call traditional sports like running, biking, camping, hiking, and then we cover things like scuba diving and even hang gliding and paragliding. Really any you can do outdoors in our area, we try to put our toe in there a little bit and at least share that information with people.
It might not be for everyone. Not everybody wants to go parachuting, but if you do, you might be able to read about it in the magazine.
Arnold Stricker
Have you been hang gliding or paragliding?
Brad Kovac
I have no. We've done stories on that. I personally have not gone.
Mark Langston
What's the one with where you have the big fan behind you, you sit down and it's got the canopy and you.
Arnold Stricker
And you're individually going around, right? Yeah, yeah, I've seen some of those.
Brad Kovac
Around and I know what you're talking about. I'm not sure what you call that exactly.
Mark Langston
It's sitting down with a big fan and you.
Arnold Stricker
I saw one so high I thought he was probably in the flight path. Of a jet.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
I was like, dude, what's going on with you?
Mark Langston
Yeah, that's kind of scary. Sounds like fun though.
Arnold Stricker
Oh, yeah.
So that Terrain magazine, folks, is T E r a I N-M-A-G com terrain-mag.com and then there's something that I don't think we've ever talked about and you've been on the show a couple times. Here is the River City Foundation. What is the River City foundation and what do they do?
Brad Kovac
So River City foundation is the nonprofit group that actually publishes Train magazine and hosts the expo.
We launched the foundation about a year and a half ago, I want to say, but we haven't really put the bullhorn out there yet because we really want to make sure that we have all of our ducks in a row before we do.
But essentially what we would like to do is collaborate, network with a lot of other folks here in town that are already doing outdoor sorts of programs and activities and act as a facilit, facilitator to bring those folks together and then connect them with youth groups, senior groups, school groups, faith based groups, and really grow the outdoor community and culture here in St. Louis. In that respect, we, we don't necessarily have the capacity to create outdoor programming ourselves.
We do some things here and there, like the expo, like the magazine, we have small reader events. But if we really want to affect large change in St.
Louis and really turn it into a large outdoor recreation community, we need to get our arms around everybody and help connect all those dots. So that's what River City Outdoors and the foundation wants to do.
And so in the past few years, we've worked closely with rec centers and school groups around town. We were able in the last year to get 3,000 kids outside that previously didn't have any outdoor activities as part of their program.
Again, we do that mainly with working with other groups. So I mentioned Big Muddy Adventures before a canoe paddling guide service.
We've had a bunch of kids get out with them or we've worked with other parks around town.
And like Upper Limits and the rock Wall that we mentioned earlier, we've been able to get Upper Limits and other programs to come to different parks around town and then work with rec centers or school groups to get kids out there and get actively engaged in these programs and in these activities.
You know, the hope being that the more that we can get these kids used to being outside on a repeating basis that they internalize that they take it to their home and their family and when they're looking for things to do. They think hiking instead of maybe sitting inside and playing on the tablet or the phone or whatever. So it's normalizing the outdoors in St.
Louis and making. Connecting all those dots and networking with everyone to make that happen. So that's more or less what River City foundation is trying to do.
Arnold Stricker
That's a huge thing because, man, I remember everybody had a bike. We were always constantly riding bikes or we were constantly outside. We never stayed inside unless it was raining heavily or snowing.
And then even snowing, we were out sledding.
Mark Langston
Yeah. And you had to be home by the time the street lights turned on. Is that right? How do you get your funding? How do you.
Brad Kovac
The foundation is a privately funded nonprofit, so we have some donors and some folks who have been really good to us. We can also, of course, accept donations and go out and try to find some grants.
We were lucky enough to have a grant a few years ago which kind of kicked off the foundation from a group called Outdoor foundation is the name of the national organization. The name of the grant is called the Thrive Outside Grant. And what that did was give a $300,000 grant to St. Louis, which we then facilitate.
And part of that grant was specifically what we're trying to do, build this coalition of outdoor organizations to work together to help elevate outdoor recreation in St. Louis. And so we've been doing that for the past couple of years, and the grant was just renewed, I believe, for another year.
I think we're happy to have that happen.
Mark Langston
I think it's great that you're going into schools and are you going into north county, other schools where some of these young kids don't have an opportunity to do some of these things?
Brad Kovac
Yeah, that's definitely the key.
Mark Langston
Okay. The little outreach going on there. Yep. Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
That's. You know, getting outside is really beneficial. It is not only for the exercise, but the vitamin D and.
Mark Langston
Right.
Arnold Stricker
I'm serious. Getting. You know, because you see kids and you mentioned the electronics. They're constantly. There's no light going on. It's dark.
No, they're just gaming or doing whatever and not getting outside. Just. That's why the pounds.
Mark Langston
Nothing like walking through a creek, if you ask me.
Arnold Stricker
Oh, gosh. Yeah. Just knowing which poison ivy plant to stay away from all of them.
Brad Kovac
And ultimately, the hope is that it's good for St. Louis, for civic pride, for the economy. Outdoor recreation can do a lot of good beyond just the individual health and wellness of folks.
Arnold Stricker
We're going to take a brief break, and we will Come right back. We're going to talk more about some outdoor kinds of activities. This is Arnold Stricker with Mark Langston of St. Louis in Tune. Don't go away.
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Arnold Stricker
Welcome back to St. Louis in Tune with Arnold Stricker and Mark Langston. We're talking to Brad Kovac. He is the he's the big cheese for the Gateway Outdoor Expo.
Mark Langston
The Big Kahuna.
Brad Kovac
I like that.
Arnold Stricker
The Big Kahuna.
Yes, he's so GatewayOutdoor Expo.com terrain-mag.com and RiverCityFDN.org but the Gateway Outdoor Expo Saturday the 23rd and Sunday the 24th of November from 10:00 to 5 and then 10:00 to 4 at the St. Charles Convention Center. That's 1 Convention Center Boulevard, a great address St. Charles Convention Center, 1 Convention Center Boulevard.
Mark Langston
Oh yeah.
Arnold Stricker
Makes. Makes a lot of sense.
Mark Langston
That's right before Thanksgiving.
Arnold Stricker
Yes it is.
Mark Langston
It is the weekend before Thanksgiving when.
Arnold Stricker
You were talking about this. And this is how my brain goes, Mark, sometimes that's going to be.
Mark Langston
That's. We're still trying to figure that out.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah. He has no clue where I'm going with this. We talked about the swim spa demo. So I'm thinking about.
You got this demo spa that puts out these jets where you can swim.
But, but it would be better then to have the fly casting guy just standing there and then Santa in the, in the canoe inside there with the kids getting. So you got a fly. Fly fisherman going. You got Santa in the canoe paddling in this.
Brad Kovac
Right.
Arnold Stricker
That's where my brain goes.
Brad Kovac
I also understand that Sasquatch might be in attendance at the expo. So you throw him in the mix.
Mark Langston
Really?
Brad Kovac
And who knows what could happen?
Mark Langston
Oh my. Oh, I'm a Sasquatch fan. I'm telling you right now.
Brad Kovac
Come on out.
Mark Langston
That's. Oh, I. Yeah, this Arnold. No Speedo though. We gotta tell you that right now. Thanks for clarifying that. But yeah, Sasquatch, that's. That's a lot of fun.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, he was tough to get, I bet. We're working on Smokey the Bear. It's smokey the bear's 80th birthday this year.
Arnold Stricker
Really?
Brad Kovac
Really?
Mark Langston
He doesn't have a walker. See, there you go.
Arnold Stricker
I know.
Brad Kovac
You never know who could show up at the expo.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Mark Langston
Wow.
Arnold Stricker
Now let me ask you this, Brad. What did you do outdoors when you were growing up?
Brad Kovac
It's funny Mark mentioned earlier creeks. So I had a creek in my backyard.
We grew up in south county and I think every day when it wasn't freezing outside, I was probably splashing around in that water. And then we had trails behind the creek in the woods there. They weren't obviously they weren't professional trails.
They were probably just old deer trails or something that we kids would go back in there and we'd be lost for hours. And you know, bless my parents for not sending out a search party or anything.
It was, you know, it was the 80s and 70s, so I guess times were different. But yeah, that's how I got, I guess, interested in just being outside in general. And then I was fortunate.
My mom, when we were in middle school, my sister and I took a job with a local outdoor summer camp. The, actually the camp itself was in Wisconsin, but their, the family that owned it was based here in Clayton.
And so that's where their winter offices were. And as part of her employment there, the camp owners asked me if. Or asked her if I would like to attend the camp when I was of age.
And so I said, sure, why not? Give it a try.
And I think the first year, like a lot of kids, I was probably a little hesitant, a little homesick, had to go through that whole process. But then the next seven or eight years, I was a camper there, and then I ended up working there for three years as a camp counselor.
And it just changed my whole life. We camped, we paddled, we hiked, we biked. Archery, softball. Everything you think of as a summer camp, we did it there.
But it was really just a coming of age, made great friends, really just changed my entire life. So that directly impacted my upbringing.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Mark Langston
Yeah, you were hooked.
Brad Kovac
I was hooked.
Mark Langston
Absolutely hooked, line and sinker.
Arnold Stricker
A lot of people don't know. You can take some archery lessons at Forest Park.
Mark Langston
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Brad Kovac
I think mdc, Missouri Department of Conservation, offers archery, an archery program. And I also know there's an archery range out in Valley park, right along the Merrimack Greenway there, which is probably underwater right now.
So don't go there right now.
Arnold Stricker
Don't ride that trail. So what's your. Do you have a favorite? Is it biking, is it hiking, is it surfing or. Yeah, I do scuba diving.
Brad Kovac
I do. I'm a mountain biker, for sure.
Mark Langston
You scare me. That scares me. Yeah, I have a friend that does that, and he just. I don't mean to interrupt, but he flies.
And I'm like, david, how do you not get hurt? It scares me when he tells me the stories about how fast he's going on his mountain bike. I can't imagine hitting a gully or something like that.
I'm sorry. Calling that.
Brad Kovac
It will happen. You do fall. That's part of it. You learn how to fall, like skiing. Eventually you're going to fall.
And you could actually take clinics and classes with a number of local outdoors or, I'm sorry, mountain bike groups in. They don't necessarily teach you how to fall, but they do teach you what they call bike body separation, which is a nice way of saying how to.
Mark Langston
You're flying through the air. Yeah, you're gonna hit a tree.
Brad Kovac
It also applies to things like turns and going downhill. You want to get out of your seat and up on your feet. That's bike body separation. But it also does apply to falling.
Mark Langston
Right.
Brad Kovac
But, you know, you get safer as you get more experienced at biking. When things look Tricky look, perhaps a little sketchy. So it's not as bad as it might seem.
Mark Langston
Okay.
Brad Kovac
But eventually you probably will fall. Just. I run as well. I think I fall just as much running as I do biking.
Mark Langston
I think that would hurt more myself.
Brad Kovac
Maybe I'm just a spaz, I don't know. But that's the truth.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah, Tillis park has some pretty decent mountain biking in Tillis Park. I know, maybe not mountain biking, but. But when I rode out there on my regular bike, I was like, this isn't really for the bike that I'm on.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, Forest park has some nice biking trails and they do actually have some off road trails that I think are back in some of the greener areas. I don't know if those are again, official trails, but I know people use them.
And then Carondelet park, which is still also in the city limits, is the first city based park that has a official mountain bike trail.
Arnold Stricker
Really?
Brad Kovac
Yeah. So it was built over the course of the last year by a local group of mountain bike advocates.
Mark Langston
Had no idea.
Arnold Stricker
I thought that was fairly flat.
Brad Kovac
It's not a super hilly trail. It's about a mile, maybe two miles at this point. There was a phase one and a phase two. I think. I know phase one is done.
I think phase two will make it two miles.
Arnold Stricker
Okay.
Brad Kovac
And two concentric loops with a connector between and yeah, it's not a great elevation. Not huge elevation, but the way they have built it does give it some up and down and some nice flowy parts.
Yeah, stuff like that is happening all over. And I like to think that maybe that's St. Louis awakening to the fact that outdoor recreation is important.
And it is something that can really add another aspect to the culture here in the city and the county. Of course.
So, yeah, the more that we can build trails, whether it's hiking or biking or whatever, within the city limits, that just benefits everybody as far as I see.
Mark Langston
Right.
Arnold Stricker
And how can people get a copy of Terrain magazine? Is there a signup list or something? Is it free? Is it electronic? Is it print? What is.
Brad Kovac
It's all of the above, but I'll explain. Yeah, we do offer a free digital magazine, so you can sign up for that on our website.
There's a sign up area box, whatever you want to call it, right there on the website. You would get the magazine, electronic version, every other month right into your inbox.
You can also pick up the print magazine at stores, locations around St. Louis. We have 300 locations that we serve around the state in St. Louis, I want to say there's probably 150 or more of those locations.
So you want to look at running stores, bike shops, any other sort of outfitter, like a, like an alpine shop. But then we're also at a number of fitness centers, brew pubs, just gathering places where we feel like the outdoor community would.
If you would like to find those locations, if you go to our website, there's a page you can click on that says magazine and it has a list of all the locations so you don't have to go out and search. You could find one online and then go and get the magazine there. And then if you like, you can also subscribe for an in home subscription.
So that's $20 a year. You're mainly paying for postage and a little bit of the print cost. But then it's going to come right to your home in mailbox every other month.
Arnold Stricker
Great stories. Here's some of the stories. Mark. We tried out a fully loaded camper van. Here's what happened. Three items to upgrade your indoor cycling training.
Ask Muddy Mike about getting started. These world class athletes call the Lake of the Ozarks home. They talk about 10 outdoorsy gifts for everyone in your life.
Just a whole variety of kinds of things. It's really cool. Yeah, you and I need to sign up.
Mark Langston
Oh yeah, I'm gonna. There's no question.
Arnold Stricker
Because we like to, we like to do outdoor kinds of things.
Brad Kovac
Yeah, we'd love to have you. We'd love to have you in the magazine. When you want to take on that new activity, let us know.
Arnold Stricker
Is it that spa with Santa and the Fly family?
Brad Kovac
Maybe that's it. You can write a great column about that. Oh my God.
Mark Langston
This is not gonna happen.
Brad Kovac
The time I met Santa and Sasquatch in a hot tub.
Arnold Stricker
A first. A first. Brad, we thank you for coming in. You can stay and listen to the rest of the show. I have some special treats for Mark here.
Mark Langston
Oh boy.
Brad Kovac
Okay, I'm happy to.
Arnold Stricker
Special audio treats. But folks, you need to get to the Gateway outdoor Expo. Saturday, November 23, 10:00-5:00pm Sunday, November 24, 10:00-4:00pm at the St.
Charles Convention center in St. Charles, Missouri. Get more information, go to gatewayoutdoor Expo.com I love this.
Mark Langston
Thank you. That's great. Yep. Website one more time.
Arnold Stricker
Gateway x gatewayoutdoor expo.com.
Mark Langston
All right. No, there. But the organization's website.
Arnold Stricker
The Terrain magazine.
Mark Langston
Yeah, Terrain.
Arnold Stricker
That's terrain mag dot com.
Mark Langston
Okay.
Arnold Stricker
Terrain magazine. And then River City foundation is rivercityfdn.org.
Mark Langston
So we got an Oregon a comm in there. Okay.
Arnold Stricker
And you can get all of us.
Brad Kovac
Much, much appreciate it.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah, it's fun to get these events out there to the public. And I want to mention again, free parking. Folks don't have to worry about that. Bring the kids. It's very family friendly. And there be food out there.
Brad Kovac
I presume they have concessions at the convention center? Yes. And then there'll probably be some sampling from some of the vendors too.
Arnold Stricker
There you go. There you go.
Mark Langston
All right.
Arnold Stricker
How many vendors are going to be there?
Brad Kovac
We expect 150 plus booths.
Mark Langston
Wow, that's huge.
Arnold Stricker
It is. That's a lot of people act. Yeah.
Mark Langston
They'll be packed in there.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah, yeah. Shoot for.
Mark Langston
I'm hoping you get especially with Sasquatch there.
Arnold Stricker
Oh, yeah. Maybe 10,000 people there. We'll have 10,000 sightings of Sasquatch. So our word of the day.
Mark Langston
Oh, here we go.
Arnold Stricker
Is acapella.
Mark Langston
Oh, it's a singing thing, isn't it?
Arnold Stricker
Yes. When a song is performed acapella, it is sung unaccompanied, no instrumental music. Oh, it's all voices. So we have some examples. Oh, we do, yes.
Number one.
Mark Langston
Ok.
Voctave
In a love of
Voctave
somewhere over the rainbow Skies are blue or blue and the dreams that you where trouble smell like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops that's where you find me Somewhere over the rain beyond the rainbow why can't man.
Mark Langston
Love it?
Arnold Stricker
I chose this group, it's called Voctiv because they do a lot of Disney songs, Mark.
Mark Langston
Do they?
Arnold Stricker
And you love Disney.
Mark Langston
I do. Did you know the Dorothy's ruby slippers were just found? I guess they were stolen for years.
Arnold Stricker
Yes, that's correct.
Mark Langston
And they just recovered them and they're gonna put them up on the auction block. And I guess there's a Wizard of Oz museum that is. I guess they have them on display now. Temporarily. And also we're in November when we record this.
And I think it was released originally in November.
Arnold Stricker
I think you're correct.
Mark Langston
So all this is just intertwined. I love it.
Arnold Stricker
That's right.
Mark Langston
It's all connects.
Arnold Stricker
Now for those of you who think. And there's a lot of acapella groups out there. There's tons of them. There's some that sing strictly what I would call classical kinds of music.
Some sing pop. Voctov sings a variety because of Disney. I chose them. Here's another one. You probably know this group.
Mark Langston
All right.
Arnold Stricker
O2. Nope. Nope.
Mark Langston
Oh, I beg your pardon. It said Everything is all right There.
The Eagles
Are stars in the southern sky Southward as you go There is moonlight and moss in the trees down the seven Bridges Rock Wow.
Arnold Stricker
The Eagles.
Mark Langston
The Eagles.
Arnold Stricker
Now, they usually did that as a warm up before they went on stage.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
And a lot of people do Seven Bridges Road song. It's a lot of instrumental stuff, but it deals with acapella. And then there's always a Star Spangled Banner version. That's. And this one just.
It makes the hair on the back of my neck. Not on my head.
Mark Langston
Okay.
Arnold Stricker
The hair on the back of my neck.
Mark Langston
That would be tough.
Arnold Stricker
Stand up at the end. So here we go. Here we go.
Voctave
O say, can you see by the dawn's early light what so proudly we hail at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight O'er the ramparts we watched Were so gallantly streaming and the rockets red glare singing air Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there O say, does that star Spangled Banner for the land of the free of free and the home of.
Arnold Stricker
Wow. If then I get the hair on the back of your neck standing up.
Mark Langston
I don't know what will.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Mark Langston
Wow.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah. And that is so hard to do, to sing that in tune. And I know that because I'm a musician.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
And that is tough.
Mark Langston
Wow.
Arnold Stricker
Now, there's some groups, they sing acapella. They'll do the, like, 613 that we've had on several times. They'll do the. They'll do all the instruments. And that.
Another one, Take six, does that, too. A lot of groups out there. It's just fun to listen to where you don't have any instrumental accompaniment.
Now, I have to ask, Brad, when you were at Lindbergh High School, did you sing in choir?
Brad Kovac
I did not.
Arnold Stricker
Did you play an instrument?
Brad Kovac
I played the trumpet.
Arnold Stricker
Oh. Was Lowell Bruner your director? No, Bob Spiegelman.
Brad Kovac
That sounds familiar.
Arnold Stricker
But.
Brad Kovac
But it's been a long time.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
What'd you play?
Brad Kovac
Trumpet.
Arnold Stricker
Trumpet.
Brad Kovac
Now that I'm thinking about, that was middle school. I think by the time I got to high school, I may have opted out of orchestra.
Arnold Stricker
Okay.
Brad Kovac
I had Mr. Zink.
Arnold Stricker
So you can appreciate this what we.
Brad Kovac
Oh, yeah. It's amazing.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Brad Kovac
The funny about the Eagles, Seven Bridges Road. I will sing that to myself. And, like, when it comes on the radio, I am in there singing it.
Arnold Stricker
Are you singing a melody or singing one?
Brad Kovac
I don't know what I'm singing, and I'm sure if it Was isolated. It would be. People would be clicking off the radio, but I cannot help but try to get in there.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
It's fun when, you know, you got somebody by themselves and you hear them singing. It's like, what in the world? And they've got headphones on.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
And they're singing with the headphones. People singing in the car.
Mark Langston
Yes, yes. I live. It's one of. I enjoy that a lot, just watching people do that. You need to roll the window down and do it, though.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah. That's how I learned to sing harmony is you listen to, like, songs like.
Mark Langston
The Eagles and you sing harmony with them.
Arnold Stricker
America. Yeah. You sing harmony with them.
Mark Langston
America was really good. That was a great group for that stuff.
Arnold Stricker
So I did that for you, Mark. The vocative group, so. Because they do a ton of Disney stuff.
Mark Langston
I love that.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah. So our word for the day, folks. Acapella.
Mark Langston
Of course. It is as it should be.
Arnold Stricker
As it should be.
Mark Langston
Yeah, I know.
Arnold Stricker
Do you have any days of the day, Mark?
Mark Langston
I have. Yeah, I have a couple. One is probably your favorite. Okay.
Arnold Stricker
Okay.
Mark Langston
It's National Men make dinner Day.
Arnold Stricker
Oh, yeah.
Brad Kovac
I saw that. Yeah.
Mark Langston
Did you see that? I did see. So this is legit. This is a legit part of the show.
Arnold Stricker
Right?
Mark Langston
I know. It says, men, take the lead. Get in there and whip up something nice. I'm not sure I could do that.
Arnold Stricker
If you get good recipes and get some good ingredients, you're okay.
Mark Langston
And it says this particular day has been shared over 6,000 times.
Arnold Stricker
Wow. It could be for me.
Mark Langston
I think my wife is probably sharing that with me, people.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah. Maria, I love to cook.
Mark Langston
You do?
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Mark Langston
I know. I've been to your house before or your condo or.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah, whatever that thing is.
Mark Langston
That high rise thing.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah, the apartment in the sky.
Mark Langston
International Stout Day. Do you like stout beer?
Arnold Stricker
Stout beer.
Mark Langston
I'm not a big fan. I hate to say. There are probably people that are going to beat me up for that National Bittersweet Chocolate Day. Not sure about that one at all.
I know. No, I shouldn't tell you. It's hug a bear today. Hug a bear. Did you have a teddy bear when you've grown up?
Arnold Stricker
When I was very young.
Mark Langston
Did you?
Arnold Stricker
Yes.
Mark Langston
I have a story about it. I was in an orphanage. I was in an adopted child that later on in life, I never had a teddy bear ever.
And I was telling my kids about it a few years back and what did they do? They got me a teddy bear.
Arnold Stricker
Oh, cool. Did you name your teddy bear Teddy Boo? Teddy Bear.
Mark Langston
Teddy Bear is Teddy. Boo and I still have Teddy.
Arnold Stricker
Is he here today?
Mark Langston
Not today, but he is at home.
Arnold Stricker
Support mayor.
Mark Langston
Yeah, he's my support Teddy. I think that's very sweet that the boys did that.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah, that's cool.
Mark Langston
Let's see. Let's see. National Cash Back Day. I don't know about that. We don't have a whole lot. Notary Public Day. Project Manager Day.
I'm saying, why, these are all pretty boring. I think there's a couple of more. Oh, National STEM Day.
Arnold Stricker
Science, Technology. That one.
Mark Langston
Yeah.
Arnold Stricker
Engineering and Engineering and Math. And you add the arts in there, it'd be Steam day.
Mark Langston
Steam. Oh, I'm not. I'm not good with that. Cook Something Bold and Pungent Day.
Arnold Stricker
Oh, that kind of goes with the first one you talked about.
Mark Langston
Let's see. International Day of Radiology. Okay. National Dunce Day. All right. National Cappuccino Day. You're slipping. Yeah, I know.
You didn't bring cappuccino in today. Harvey Wallbanger Day. Never had a Harvey Wall. Have you ever had one? No, never.
Arnold Stricker
Don't care to.
Mark Langston
National parents is Teachers Day.
Arnold Stricker
Oh. Which started in the state of Missouri.
Mark Langston
Is that a fact?
Arnold Stricker
Yes. And then went national.
Mark Langston
Who knew?
Arnold Stricker
Yes.
Mark Langston
Really?
Arnold Stricker
Started under, I think it was then Governor Christopher Kit Bond.
Mark Langston
Oh, okay.
Arnold Stricker
He got elected to senator then.
Mark Langston
Yeah. Wasn't. He was governor then he got beat by Walking Joe Teesdale who died.
Arnold Stricker
And then.
Mark Langston
Then he came back.
Arnold Stricker
Yeah.
Mark Langston
And took it on again.
Arnold Stricker
Yep.
Mark Langston
He was a mad governor. He was mad about that loss. I remember that world. A pianiste. So there you go.
Arnold Stricker
All right.
Mark Langston
That's a. Yeah. There's others too. Like Talk Money Day.
Arnold Stricker
Depoporia.
Mark Langston
You have a potpourri of days. That's correct. Too many days.
Arnold Stricker
Who could keep up? I love mangoes. Do you like mangoes?
Mark Langston
Yes, please. Mangoes.
Arnold Stricker
So my dad bought 15 mangoes and didn't tell my mom, so she bought 10 mangoes. And now we are the people from the math problems. For those of you that don't get that, my dad bought 15 mangoes and my mom bought 10 mangoes.
How many mangoes do we have?
Mark Langston
You should have left when you had the chance.
Arnold Stricker
Yesterday I wore something from five years ago and it actually fit. So I'm very proud of myself. It was a scarf.
Mark Langston
Wow. This is how it's going to be, isn't it?
Arnold Stricker
Let's see here. Oh, here we go. The first rule of cleaning while listening to music. The toilet brush is never the microphone.
Mark Langston
Oh, my goodness. Oh, that hurts. Just to hear it.
Arnold Stricker
And folks, don't let anyone ruin your day. You're an adult. Do it yourself. My wife said, that's the fourth time you've gone back for dessert. Doesn't it embarrass you? I said, no.
I keep telling them it's for you. The woman visits her husband in prison.
Mark Langston
There's more.
Arnold Stricker
Before leaving, she tells a correction officer, you shouldn't make my husband work like that. He's exhausted. The officer laughs and says, are you kidding? He just eats and sleeps and stays in his cell.
The wife replies, he just told me he's been digging a tunnel for months.
Mark Langston
Wow, these are worse than dad jokes. You know that, right?
Arnold Stricker
Told my boss I was going to the bathroom, but did say which one. I'm now at home now. Brad will like this one. It's because it's a fitness one.
Mark Langston
Don't bet on it. Okay, go ahead.
Arnold Stricker
This was seen outside the 24 Fitness.
The Eagles
Tight.
Arnold Stricker
Not just 24 Fitness. This is a joke, folks.
Mark Langston
Okay?
Arnold Stricker
Tired of being fat and ugly? Just be ugly. 24 Fitness.
Mark Langston
Thank you very much. Wow.
Arnold Stricker
Shazam. Okay, let's see here. I'm going to the collection now. Okay, here we go. A man is suing smartwater for not making him smart.
And I'd like to formally announce my lawsuit against Thin Mints. And unless he wears diapers, folks, you can't change him.
Mark Langston
Wrong.
Arnold Stricker
Okay, let's see.
Mark Langston
I think we're running out of time, even if we're not.
Arnold Stricker
Now, here are some nicknames for co workers. We've shared this before, but this is always a good one. We'll end with this one. Lava lamp. Looks good, but not very bright. Deck chair.
Folds under pressure. Dr. Dolittle. The name says it all. 007, zero motivation, zero skills, seven bathroom breaks. G spot can never be found.
I have a whole slug of these on stupid.
Mark Langston
Do you really?
Arnold Stricker
I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm just saying you've got bad luck when it comes to thinking.
Mark Langston
Oh, no. Wow. They're turning us off all over town. Okay, people want to hear the next thing you do, I'm sure.
Arnold Stricker
Remember, if you work hard enough at your job, you get to do other people's work, too.
Mark Langston
Yep, that's right. I get that. I've been there, done that.
Arnold Stricker
Don't stop there, folks. Okay, we thank you for being with us today. Let's see if I can. Brad has my paper with my extra on it. But I will. Let's see if I can do it.
Oh, here we go. Hey, thank you. It says here. Thanks. Thank you folks. That's all for this hour.
Mark Langston
Thank goodness.
Arnold Stricker
If you've enjoyed this episode, you can listen to additional shows@stl and tune.com. consider leaving a review on Apple Podcast, Podchaser or your preferred podcast platform.
Your feedback helps us reach more listeners and continue to grow. Want to thank Bob Bertha Sell for our theme music. Our guests Brad Kovac and co host Mark Langston.
We thank thank you for being a part of our community of curious minds. St. Louis in tune is a production of Motif Media Group and the US Radio Network.
Remember to keep seeking, keep learning, walk worthy, and let your light shine. For St. Louis in tune, I'm Arnold Stricker.
Brad Kovach
Deputy Director at River City Foundation / Publisher at Terrain Magazine / Professional writer
Brad Kovach is the Publisher of Terrain Magazine and Deputy Director of River City Foundation. Brad founded Terrain in 2014 as a way to expand outdoor recreation in St. Louis and the Midwest. In 2013, he helped launch River City Foundation, a private nonprofit foundation dedicated to supporting, promoting, and advocating for outdoor recreation. He believes everyone should have access to safe and inviting outdoor experiences – leading to a healthy community, a vibrant culture, and an enduring appreciation for the natural world. Brad is an avid mountain biker, trail runner, hiker, and paddler.
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